Saturday, 8 May 2010

The case of the disappearing bath

This 'bath' has featured so much in the Haut De La Garenne abuse enquiry with a lot of allegations made about it and its use. Blood was found in it and a sniffer dog made very strong indications that there was something there.
Imagine then my surprise upon learning that it has been removed, albeit in secret, from the site.
Surely it must be classed as physical evidence and therefore should have been preserved in situ until such time as all investigations and court cases have been concluded.
One wonders who gave the order and what their reasoning was, to me it looks like willful destruction of evidence in an ongoing investigation and therefore the person/persons responsible should face criminal charges.
Anyway, it seems others would like answers as 2 questions will be asked in the states next Tuesday (11th May) and I cant wait for the answers if they are forthcoming.
I reproduce the actual questions to be asked in full below.

1. Deputy T.M. Pitman of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Minister for Home Affairs –

“Would the Minister advise the Assembly how many of the 30 alleged abuse cases relating to the cellars at
Haut de la Garenne are still part of the ongoing historic abuse investigations; how many, if any, are not being pursued, when it was decided to discontinue their investigation and for what reason?”

8. The Deputy of St. Martin will ask the following question of the Minister for Home Affairs –

“Will the Minister inform Members how many allegations were made in relation to abuse in the stone bath or immediate area at
Haut de la Garenne; why and when was the bath demolished, who gave authority to demolish it and what did its demolition and removal cost?”


  1. Hi Ozzy, hope you are well mate.

    Somehow, I don't think these questions will be answered, not yet anyhoo.

  2. Ozzy.

    It is very "curious" that the bath should go AWOL. Not least, as you have pointed out, there is an ongoing enquiry where this bath which had bloodstains in it must play a role.

    But what about it's historic worth? I am told it was there before the 1920's. What possible reason could there be to get rid of it?

    Do you think all will be revealed on Tuesday? Somehow I reckon we are going to be left with more questions than answers!

  3. Strange indeed - who, when and more importantly why was an old concrete bath in the voids removed?

    I can't think of one credible reason.

  4. Hello Ozzy, I hope all is well with you. I have posted the following question onto the JDA site in the hope that Trevor will ask the question at some point! This is not going away anytime soon!!!

    "Would the minister also explain why Gradwell felt it necessary to invite some of the HDLG survivors to the police station and show them exhibits of evidence that had been found in the cellars at HDLG and would this action not have made the evidence inadmissible in a court of Law.

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